RZH Email 19 March 2017

RZH email 19 March                                                     hidden page

Update 20 3 17 at BUT  3.2.16,  and 5

  1. The email
  2. Arising from 1.1
  3. Arising from 1.5 
  4. Facing reality
  5. Result of test

1  The email

  1. There is loads online that you can look up just by googling ENTJ or ENTP – or ‘NT Kiersey’. For example, both http://www.keirsey.com/4temps/rational_overview.asp and   https://mypersonality.info/personality-types/nt-temperament/ show the 4 possible types of NT. Richard is a classic INTP – as you will see when you read it.

  2. By the way, NT in this context means iNtuitive Thinking – not Neuro Typical. You will soon see that this kind of NT is anything but neuro typical – we NTs are a rare breed apart, and only comprise a low percentage of the population. Not surprisingly, we are not understood or even liked! And some people think we are nearly autistic – I can see why.

  3. The difference between ENTP (which may be you) and ENTJ (which is me, but a bit like you too) is well set out here: http://www.preludecharacteranalysis.com/types/entp/vs/entj

  4. You may find you resonate with the characteristics of one more than the other – which will help decide if you are truly and ENTP or really an ENTJ. Or you could be well-balanced across the P-J spectrum and be bits of both!  I think you will find you have quite a lot of J characteristics.  But the inventiveness you have goes with the P – the Keirsey website above calls an ENTP the Inventor.  ENTJ is the Fieldmarshal (everyone agrees that is me).

  5. If you want to learn about the basics by video/lectures as well as books, you could pay £36 for this https://www.udemy.com/how-to-get-people-practical-psychology/?couponCode=PCAWEB20   We haven’t got it because we don’t need it, but it could be useful for you in a different medium.

  6. I do a lot with all this in mentoring – but most people are not NT so don’t want to learn about the whole model – just what they are. Which doesn’t teach them how other people are!

2  Arising from 1.1


2.1.1   All Rationals share the following core characteristics:   AFH = italics

  1. Rationals tend to be pragmatic, skeptical, self-contained, and focused on problem-solving and systems analysis.

  2. Rationals pride themselves on being ingenious, independent, and strong willed.

  3. Rationals make reasonable mates, individualizing parents, and strategic leaders.

  4. Rationals are even-tempered, they trust logic, yearn for achievement, seek knowledge, prize technology, and dream of understanding how the world works.

2.1.2   NT Temperament - The "Intellectuals"   AFH = italics

  1. NTs are introspective, logical and on a constant quest for knowledge. 

  2. They are practical and unsentimental in their approach to problem solving. 

  3. The actions of an NT are precise and follow a systematic course. 

  4. Abstract, theoretical and technically adept, NTs are naturally inventive. 

  5. They can also be described as being analytical, intellectual, inquisitive, independent and complex.  

        The four NT "Intellectual" personality types are listed here

3  Arising from 1.5    

The difference between ENTP (which may be you) and ENTJ (which is me, but a bit like you too) is well set out 

AFH_NS = AFH in a nutshell

3.1.1   ENTP - 1

  1. Curious, communicative with a need to challenge, 
  2. ENTPs love the intellectual debate, 
  3. are spontaneous, 
  4. and assertive.                 AFH_NS = all these      over-assertive   spontaneous - not thought through

  5. They have a unique view of the world, AFH_NS  and bring a fresh perspective. USUALLY UNACCEPTABLE

  6. This can make them intellectually promiscuous, 

  7. enjoying one new experience after another, AFH_NS and often failing within projects

  8. and failing to follow through on their great ideas AFH_NS        follow through failure =  due to opposition

  9. as they look for bigger and more novel experiences.  AFH_NS     more failure

3.1.2   ENTP - 2

  1. The ENTP is very closely UNattuned to their surroundings and constantly on the lookout for opportunities and possibilities.

  2. Engaging, plausible and entertaining the ENTP will be like a breath of fresh air,   I DON'T ENGAGE

  3. infusing people and situations with a whole array of new ideas and creative ways of doing things. WHETHER LIKED OR NOT

  4. However, they can become bored SEE 4 and withdraw their energies as they go off in search of the next thrill. 

  5. Curious, child-like wonder characterises the ENTP,     NO CHILD-LIKE WONDER

  6. they are flexible, INFLEXIBLE
  7. open-minded NO
  8. and love possibilities. 

  9. They tend to see everything as a challenge, 

  10. seeing opportunities even in the most difficult of circumstances. 

  11. ENTPs can at times display impatience with those whom they consider wrong, and may show little restraint in demonstrating this.   WITHOUT REALISING

3.2  The ENTJ 
  1. The ENTJ is the master of change, 

  2. the big picture conceptualist 

  3. who loves the new and the challenging  AFH_NS

  4. who devises the long range plan then relentlessly drive it towards conclusion.  OR DESTRUCTION 

  5. Confident and authoritative the ENTJ will take the lead AFH_NS

  6. rarely hesitating and AFH_NS

  7. with a directness that can often leave others reeling in their wake     often = always

  8. having no time for anything seen as woolly or obstructive.  AFH_NS

BUT  3.2.16

The ENTJ doesn’t really understand emotions, preferring to deal with issues as problems, or concepts and certainly trying to appeal to their emotional side will not be the best way to resolve issues.   ibid     AFH_NS

4    Facing reality
  1. My biggest problem- overload

  2. Trying to deal with reality leaves me thoroughly disheartened

  3. Looking at such websites leaves me in greatest despair

  4. and I don't see it achieves anything

more analysis to come

5   Result of test here



This trait determines how we interact with our environment.
This trait shows where we direct our mental energy.
This trait determines how we make decisions and cope with emotions.
This trait reflects our approach to work, planning and decision-making.
This trait underpins all others, showing how confident we are in our abilities and decisions.

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