An exploration of the UK unpaid carer's world

Persecutor - Victim: The Triangle - towards a model relating to the fraught carer  

hidden page  created 30 August 2015.

The page, as with the previous page here is provisional.  Events have overtaken page development.


1  The Karpman drama triangle

We start with the Karpman drama triangle first seen at Item h on the previous page.  The text is repeated.

1.1    -  h/1

The Drama Triangle was originally conceived in 1968 by Stephen Karpman, M.D. as a way to graphically display a type of destructive interaction that can occur between people in conflict. The Karpman Drama Triangle models the connection between personal responsibility and power in conflicts, and the destructive and shifting roles people play. 

1.2    -  h/2

Triangulation is the “process whereby a two-party relationship that is experiencing tension will naturally involve a third parties sic to reduce tension”.  Simply put, when someone finds themselves in conflict with another person, they will reach out to a third person. The resulting triangle is more comfortable as it can hold much more tension because the tension is being shifted around three people instead of two.

 

1.3  Progressing - some initial considerations within the caveat that the author's primary role is carer to his wife

1.3.1

The fact that we retain someone to identify the victim while another person  identifies an organisation, should not rule out the use of the Karpman drama triangle.  


1.3.2

The fact that the victim, in at least one case, has taken dramatic steps on occasions to ensure that the perpetrator has taken notice, perhaps helps justify using a model based on drama. 


1.3.3.1 

Editing an important phrase  a two-party relationship that is experiencing tension will naturally involve a third party   reminds us that this is part of every day life.  Why does it need to be modelled?  

1.3.3.2

By taking into account essential features of social phenomena and structuring them in a shorthand way helps anyone doing the initial thinking to shorten the understanding process for others who come new to a specific topic. This is how society advances.  

1.3.3.3

Cynics faced with the question  "Why does it need to be modelled? " can but ask "Why does it need to be muddled?" That gets nobody anywhere.


1.3.4

Editing an important phrase  a two-party relationship that is experiencing tension will naturally involve a third party   reminds us that arbitration might benefit from use of the Karpman model as much as the model could benefit the situation faced by any victim.   The victim here - yours truly.  He has not come across any examples yet. 


1.3.5

The Drama Triangle was originally conceived in 1968 by Stephen Karpman, M.D. as a way to graphically display a type of destructive interaction that can occur between people in conflict.  The analysis will extend to pointing out that Practitioner can often mean the org behind her/him which leads to the search for, even the creation of, new models.  Also, that the Carer and Caree   &   Practitioner and caree are unlikely to be in conflict.


1.3.6

The Victim-Rescuer-Persecutor Triangle is a psychological model for explaining specific co-dependent, destructive inter-action patterns, which negatively impact our lives. Each position on this triangle has unique, readily identifiable characteristics. Whenever a person becomes entangled in any one of these positions, they literally keep spinning from one position to another, destroying the opportunity for healthy relationships. The good news is that once a person becomes aware of these positions and chooses to break this cycle, they can transcend the V-R-P Triangle. Resolving these dysfunctional behaviours is one of the main keys for healing ourselves and creating healthy relationships. source

 

2    Dementia Triangle of Care 

Never having seen it in operation, the author can only surmise that when it is, it works.  

It would be simpler to call the person with dementia caree.

In at least one situation, the model is

                   > > > > > > > > > > > 

Practitioner                                 Caree

                   < < < < < < < < < < <

                               Carer

Unsatisfactory, to say  the least.

As stated above, this page was created in August 2015.

The triangle has been put to use in December 2016 here.


                  A      Person with dementia

          B    Practitioner                        C     Carer

                                      source here


Which leads to wondering: 

  1. if the caree is better named     Victim 1     and the carer    Victim 2.

  2. if Victim 2 literally keeps spinning from one position to another, destroying the opportunity for healthy relationships.. .  it's unlikely that Victim 2 feels like Victim 1. 

  3. It is unfair if the Practitioner attacks or bars Victim 2.  Practitioners have the weight of a large organisation behind them.  In this case, the org has acted as practitioner.

  4. These are specific co-dependent, destructive inter-action patterns, which negatively impact our lives  and, more specifically, on the actors in the drama 

  5. Victim 2 reached out to a third party who/which responded beyond the call of duty.  The third party cannot be identified.

  6. More later.  Probably much later due to  here.

pagetop here   for pasting    Persecutor - Victim: The Triangle  here


                                                Persecutor- victim page here 

                                               

                                               Karpman source  

                                            1.3.6 The Victim-Rescuer-Persecutor Triangle is a psychological model  source


 

Another triangle has been put to creative use  here.